Discussion thread for Agatha H. and the Clockwork Princess. Beware, Here There be SPOILERS

[hippogrif]

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This is a thread for discussing the Girl Genius novelization Agatha H. and the Clockwork Princess, as well as all Girl Genius in general. The subject matter is the property of Phil and Kaja Foglio.

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Comments

Re: Mom Sturmvarous

[claudeng]

I wonder whether Selnikov's being an uncle is actually relevant to anything, or whether it's just extra interesting information. Given how Anevka refers to Lady Selnikov (distant, less like a blood relation) and that Selnikov calls Aaronev his brother-in-law, my take is he's likely their mother's brother.

Re: Mom Sturmvarous

[hippogrif]

(Considers) I'm not really sure. He's said to look related to the Sturmvoraus, which would suggest that he's related to Aaronev. And he appears to be a Knight of Jove, which also looks suggestive of the Sturmvoraus.

Tarvek says that the Sturmvoraus have been protecting the lineage of Valois for ten generations. That would suggest that the Valois bloodline has been at the very least guarded by the Sturmvoraus, and possibly propagated through marriages. If Tarvek's line is anything like many European royal families, the interconnections and back-breeding could be rather intense.

Uncle Selnikov

[lightningnettle.livejournal.com]

Well, when Sun revives his head in the Hospital, he says something about his lands and title going to his nephew. Perhaps that's Tarvek?

Re: Uncle Selnikov

[hippogrif]

That would be very interesting. Or it could indicate one of those other contenders Tarvek mentioned to Gil. The ones who would make Gil wish he'd stuck with Tarvek...

Re: Uncle Selnikov

[lightningnettle.livejournal.com]

Undoubtably, but it's a nice unobtrusive set-up if it does become important later. It's also mentioned a couple of times that Lady Selnikov is in Paris, I'm wondering if that's another quiet hook to hold things together later.

Re: Uncle Selnikov

[hippogrif]

Oh, that would be very nice. And it would provide a good door into the various factions of the conspiracy.

Re: Mom Sturmvarous

[bunnyjadwiga]

I'd been thinking about that. I see 3 possibilities:
Selinkov married Aaronev's sister. In which case, we have a female Stormvarous out there running free, since Selinkov's wife is alleged to be still extant.

Aaronev married Selinkov's sister, in which case Selinkov's of the Storm King lineage.

Or, Aaronev and Selinkov married two sisters, both of the Storm King lineage, and only one of the sisters managed to procreate, or at least produce a boy child (Tarvek's mother)

Re: Mom Sturmvarous

[claudeng]

I hadn't thought of the 2-sisters option. If that's the case, Aaronev and Selnikov are probably still at least cousins or something, since the book describes him as recently related to the royal family (I'd use the actual quote if I had the book handy).

The Selnikovs might even have children - I don't think it's been said anywhere that they don't, they could be in Paris with mama, and might be numbered among the "unpleasant cousins", although that's less likely since Anevka and Tarvek trusted Selnikov enough to be part of their plan. (Apologies for the grammar, I can't seem to disentangle that sentence)

Re: Mom Sturmvarous

[bunnyjadwiga]

If Selinkov's lands and titles go to a nephew ("A Star Witness is Revived"), we can be reasonably sure he has no sons. He might have a daughter, but that seems unlikely unless she's too young to have clothes Anevka would want to borrow.