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Re: My Higg's Hypothesis

Date: 2012-04-24 05:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bunnyjadwiga
I found the emphasis on van Rijn's refusal to let any portraits of himself be made somewhat... hm... suspicious. I continue to wonder whether Higgs is in fact van Rijn. Or is he Mongfish related (or both), since both Theo and Tarvek appear to follow his lead...

Re: My Higg's Hypothesis

Date: 2012-04-24 06:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] claudeng
Agreed, that seemed like an awfully important detail but we don't have nuch to hang on it. It could fit in with the Tarvek-time-travel theory, too, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

Higgs could certainly pass for Dutch, and he really knew his way around Otilia. The Netherlands and Belgium are outside Klaus' empire, right?

I still don't think Tarvek has any special knowledge about Higgs, I think he's just reacting to the signals Higgs been sending him until he knows what's going on. As long as Higgs is no immediate threat to Agatha or his plans, I think quietly going along with things until he has the situation understood and back under control is exactly how Tarvek would react. He knows Higgs is more than he seems, but he doesn't know any more than we do. Theo much the same.

Re: My Higg's Hypothesis

Date: 2012-04-24 08:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bunnyjadwiga
I'd buy that except that Moloch (trained minion), Zeetha, Violetta, Sleipnir, Gil, and the other prisoners don't seem to have the "oh, better not ask" response to Higgs, so why Theo and Tarvek?

Re: My Higg's Hypothesis

Date: 2012-04-24 08:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] claudeng
Higgs hasn't pulled out the active looming at anyone but Tarvek, so far as I remember. In fact, how much of his scary awesomeness has anyone in your list witnessed?

Gil's the only one who knows the story of him saving Klaus. Tarvek was the only one who saw him dismantle Otilia one-handed. Theo can tell Higgs is lying about the map, but that doesn't tell him much. Zeetha sees him fight with Jagers, he's as fast as she is chasing Zola, and he can jump down the same holes. She treats him as an equal. We only see Violetta interact with him briefly after he really goes to town on Zola in the plant room - she's working with him and doesn't seem ridiculously impressed, but she's awfully fast herself. Gil, Tarvek, and Agatha see him get up and salute when he should be mostly exsanguinated.

Most of them are interacting with him perfectly reasonably, given what they've seen of him. Tarvek is the only one who's seen him go really superhuman more than once, been loomed at by him twice, and obviously has a theory, but I think it's based just on what he's observed, not any background information.

Also, I suspect Higgs is really good at fading into the background when he wants to. It'd be a survival skill for him.

Re: My Higg's Hypothesis

Date: 2012-04-24 10:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] claudeng
I realized I forgot Zeetha's "How indeed?" reaction - she does realize there's something up with Higgs, but it doesn't seem to affect how she treats him. Maybe that just makes him more interesting, I guess.

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