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This is a thread for discussing the Girl Genius novelization Agatha H. and the Clockwork Princess, as well as all Girl Genius in general. The subject matter is the property of Phil and Kaja Foglio.
No spoilers are required in this thread. The assumption is you've read the material already. That is why this thread exists--to provide a place for people to talk without having to try to avoid giving away secrets.
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Have fun. Talk at will. If you don't want spoilers, run away now.
Hippogrif.
This is a thread for discussing the Girl Genius novelization Agatha H. and the Clockwork Princess, as well as all Girl Genius in general. The subject matter is the property of Phil and Kaja Foglio.
No spoilers are required in this thread. The assumption is you've read the material already. That is why this thread exists--to provide a place for people to talk without having to try to avoid giving away secrets.
I own this account. If you're rude or a jackass, I will delete your post. If you're debating in good faith and not annoying the natives, I won't. If people really can't behave, I'll delete the whole fershlugginer thread.
Have fun. Talk at will. If you don't want spoilers, run away now.
Hippogrif.
Re: First Impressions
Date: 2012-04-29 11:21 pm (UTC)Tarot Deck numbers: It won't match, because there are 22 major arcana in the deck, and XXX: The Whirlwind won't fit in our world. One more way Europa differs, just as the Muses aren't our Muses.
RE: editors. Their publisher is not giving them a proper edit, appears to have pushed them to get a new book out fast, and the cloud editing they'd hoped for that would have brought this book out better than the first didn't happen. They are apparently aware of the problem and fighting their publishers to try to develop a solution that doesn't bend the publisher out of shape but gets the editing done. It has been suggested that a polite letter to the publishers suggesting that editing would help a lot might be in order. This by way of having suggested somewhat more forcefully to the authors that really, they need to do something about this. Which they do.
Lu's thoughts, added to the far more clear version of her response to Tarvek's pondering on leaving his home, PLUS more clarification about her "new body" and her self-admiration, goes a lot way to tell us just how not-human she's been, and for a long time. Like probably most of Agatha's life, I would guess. I think Agatha's comment that her thoughts are not just mad, but alien compounds that. (grin) Feeling vindicated again: My own hypothesis that Lu-as-we-know-her is an amalgam with something else, and that whatever she was before she begame the Other, she changed in the transition, seems more and more likely to be correct.
The Muses are indeed more awesome...and it worries me that they may have been yanking Tarvek's chain when he sought advice from them. I'm also interested in the backstory on Van Rijn, who would not allow himself to be painted.
I can't say I'm surprised at the new angle on Euphro and Andronicus, but, then, I always assumed that the version we got had been heavily "Opera-ated" on. To me it always did seem more opera fantasy than history, and I expected the "real story" to differ. If nothing else it's too much in the Foglio's meta-theme for the opera to be taken at face value.
I am glad, yes, that Klaus does continue to seem to recall Zanta fondly. And, yes, a more expanded Zeetha.
And it's good to see you here, friend, even if it did make you get another dratted password.
Accounts and Editing
Date: 2012-04-30 02:05 am (UTC)So the Foglios would like us to write a polite letter to their publishers about editing? I'd be happy to do that! Better editing would create a much more pleasant read; and more people would buy the book. Though, as art, the comics are the core of this world.
Four Mysteries
Date: 2012-04-30 03:32 am (UTC)The Other/the Geisters
The Spark itself
The Dyne
At least the first of these three could be explained, in some generic Sci Fi, by the touch of some kind of advanced alien (or plutonic) civilization. The book does nothing to rule these out. Of the four, the only one that I would like to be resolved in this way is The Other/the Geisters.
Even if the Tarot card numbers do not match our deck, they may be a link to something that we can identify in the story.
Re: First Impressions
Date: 2012-05-01 01:52 pm (UTC)That really makes me wonder how a story of Heterodyne conquest could be problematic in Mechanicsburg. Maybe they're suckers for Storm King stories just like everyone else, and don't want to remember that their Heterodynes caused his downfall. More likely there's a lot more to the story. So many tantalizing details!