Discussion thread for Agatha H. and the Clockwork Princess. Beware, Here There be SPOILERS

[hippogrif]

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This is a thread for discussing the Girl Genius novelization Agatha H. and the Clockwork Princess, as well as all Girl Genius in general. The subject matter is the property of Phil and Kaja Foglio.

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Hippogrif.

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Re: Agatha and Sexuality

[hippogrif]

If you find more, let us know. I'm sort of playing hooky right now, and can't afford to add one more layer of archive binge to my work load at the moment, but I am really curious what you find.

Re: Agatha and Sexuality

[claudeng]

The only voice in the first book that I can see she has an interesting reaction to is, of all people, Theo's. He has "a deep voice that made Agatha's ears tingle." which is totally not what I heard him as in my head. Oh well. Gil is all touch and scent and facial expressions. They don't seem to have made much of voices in the first novelization, not even mentioning anything odd when Gill chews the scenery at the university.

Re: Agatha and Sexuality

[hippogrif]

Interesting. And Lars' bed smelled masculine. I'll have to think about that.

Tarvek's voice

[lightningnettle.livejournal.com]

It occurred to me today to wonder if the reason Tarvek's voice affected Agatha so much, is that he was low-level sparking the whole time. Lar's voice is his madboy voice, when they're sparking. Gil's voice is described as having, I think, infrasonics when he threatens Wooster.

So Gil's voice doesn't affect her muc in CW because he's safe and doesn't need to be sparking except when they're in the falling machine. Whereas Tarvek's in constant danger in Sturmhalten and has his spark up all the time to help him react to danger, essentially he sparks conspiracy making and detection. Maybe how he got such good control of it for the most part.

It sounds a bit silly now.

Re: Tarvek's voice

[hippogrif]

I think they're doing something with sound/voice that's bigger than just Agatha finding people sexy. I find it a bit hard to believe a non-spark can imitate Spark subsonics. That just feels off. But there's something going on with what voices do.

There's obviously Lu/Agatha's ability to command the wasps. There's Agatha's ability to heterodyne, which requires hearing as well as vocal production: she has to hear what she's aiming for to hit it, that's why deaf and tone-deaf people can only sing a tune with tech-help to allow them to see when they're frequency-matching. There's the hint that Tarvek can hear very specifically, and thus possibly reproduce Agatha's heterodyning. There's the fact that he's the one who figures out how to reproduce Lu/Agatha's voice, and that he manages to improve it beyond his own expectations for Anevka.

It will be very interesting to see what they do with that.


Good catch. THANKS! XD

Re: Tarvek's voice

[claudeng]

And following on heterodyning, I'm wondering if it's going to turn out to interfere with wasps. It blocks Lucrezia in Agatha's head. When we get Lucrezia's POV when the locket shuts her down, she hears it as a sound - I think they use the word "whine", but that's not too far from "atonal drone".

The counter-argument to this is that all the revenants in Sturmhalten were still rampaging while Agatha's signal was running. On the other hand, the city didn't really go to hell until after it was shut off. I could think of a couple of ways around that.

Re: Tarvek's voice

[hippogrif]

I have a growing suspicion that there's something important connecting Lu's voice and Heterodyne hum, but I have't quite figured out what, yet. Yes, I think Heterodyne hum has an effect on Lu and on Lu-tech. I'm wondering if marrying Barry and having a child with him wasn't at least partly a matter of trying to combine two skills/sensitivities.

But I'm not sure, and it niggles at me.

Re: Tarvek's voice

[sffcorgi]

Bill.

Re: Tarvek's voice

[hippogrif]

Heh. Yes. Brain-fart. It happens. XD

Re: Agatha and Sexuality

[sffcorgi]

I looked too, and when Gil goes all Mad over the dihoxulator, you'd think that'd be the point to say something about Gil's tone or resonance shifting, but - not a significant word.

Re: Agatha and Sexuality

[lightningnettle.livejournal.com]

Excellent point, you are right, he definitely goes Sparky there; and Agatha's awake to hear him.

Re: Agatha and Sexuality

[sffcorgi]

There were other priorities for that scene, unfortunately.

Theo

[lightningnettle.livejournal.com]

On a reread, she does react to Theo's voice, it makes her ears tingle; and he's a spark too.

It's interesting that Sleipnir describes it as a touch of the Spark, when I would have guessed from how quickly he picked up on the notes about how to move Von Pinn into her new body, and thought of improvements, that he was a strong spark.

Re: Agatha and Sexuality

[bunnyjadwiga]

Mind you, if they are going for a one-true-V, then there's going to be something Tarvek's got that Gil doesn't.

However, the fact that both Tarvek and Theo have voices that catch Agatha's attention may point to a blood connection between the Mongfishes and the Sturmvaruses.